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		<title>By: Nona</title>
		<link>http://all-about-ferrets.net/more-on-kaos/comment-page-1#comment-142</link>
		<dc:creator>Nona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 01:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Bill - many thanks for that information about spirolactone &amp; digoxin.  You certainly did a lot of research to find out the answers :-)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think you misunderstood me - I haven&#039;t had any contact with Ron Hines, the American vet.  He had an article about Cardiomyopathy &amp; Ferrets on his website&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://www.2ndchance.info/cardiomyopathyferret.htm&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;so I printed the information out and took that to my vet to ask if Kaos could be put on Spirolactone.  I never contacted him but saw he had his email address on his site so passed that on to you if you wanted to ask him questions.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;To muddy the waters, I found a site which talked about Benazepril being an ACE inhibitor drug and that is used with Spirolactone, then the potassium levels should be monitored.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You can read about it here&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/ClientED/cardiacDrugs.aspx&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Of course that got me worried as Kaos is on Benazepril so I emailed my vet asking if she thought it was necessary to monitor Kaos&#039; potassium levels but she hasn&#039;t written back.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Since that site is a general one about pet health, it could be that dogs &amp; cats have a different requirement to ferrets when on the same medication but that&#039;s only my guess.  It&#039;d be nice to hear back from my vet but I&#039;m not holding my breath :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Bill &#8211; many thanks for that information about spirolactone &#038; digoxin.  You certainly did a lot of research to find out the answers <img src='http://all-about-ferrets.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think you misunderstood me &#8211; I haven&#8217;t had any contact with Ron Hines, the American vet.  He had an article about Cardiomyopathy &#038; Ferrets on his website</p>
<p><a href="http://www.2ndchance.info/cardiomyopathyferret.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.2ndchance.info/cardiomyopathyferret.htm</a></p>
<p>so I printed the information out and took that to my vet to ask if Kaos could be put on Spirolactone.  I never contacted him but saw he had his email address on his site so passed that on to you if you wanted to ask him questions.</p>
<p>To muddy the waters, I found a site which talked about Benazepril being an ACE inhibitor drug and that is used with Spirolactone, then the potassium levels should be monitored.</p>
<p>You can read about it here</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/ClientED/cardiacDrugs.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/ClientED/cardiacDrugs.aspx</a></p>
<p>Of course that got me worried as Kaos is on Benazepril so I emailed my vet asking if she thought it was necessary to monitor Kaos&#8217; potassium levels but she hasn&#8217;t written back.</p>
<p>Since that site is a general one about pet health, it could be that dogs &#038; cats have a different requirement to ferrets when on the same medication but that&#8217;s only my guess.  It&#8217;d be nice to hear back from my vet but I&#8217;m not holding my breath <img src='http://all-about-ferrets.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ferret-lover</title>
		<link>http://all-about-ferrets.net/more-on-kaos/comment-page-1#comment-141</link>
		<dc:creator>ferret-lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK i did some more sniffing around.&lt;br/&gt;Spirolactone or(Spironolactone)is&lt;br/&gt;a potassium friendly diuretic it&lt;br/&gt;dose not raise or lower the serum potassium levels&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;digoxin is an herb med made from foxglove very toxic. used to help&lt;br/&gt;with the heart beat functions. &lt;br/&gt;Low levels of potassium cause the toxic levels to rise. &lt;br/&gt;hints the dangers of using diuretics. I hope this helped you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK i did some more sniffing around.<br />Spirolactone or(Spironolactone)is<br />a potassium friendly diuretic it<br />dose not raise or lower the serum potassium levels</p>
<p>digoxin is an herb med made from foxglove very toxic. used to help<br />with the heart beat functions. <br />Low levels of potassium cause the toxic levels to rise. <br />hints the dangers of using diuretics. I hope this helped you.</p>
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		<title>By: ferret-lover</title>
		<link>http://all-about-ferrets.net/more-on-kaos/comment-page-1#comment-140</link>
		<dc:creator>ferret-lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 14:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey NONA&lt;br/&gt;its Bill&lt;br/&gt;I left him an email&lt;br/&gt;with the question but as of yet no&lt;br/&gt;response. he doesn&#039;t seem to have&lt;br/&gt;a post to contact or leave comments&lt;br/&gt;by. like you do. so i don&#039;t think I&#039;ll get an response. since you had contact with him you may have&lt;br/&gt;to ask him your self. sorry about that. I&#039;ll have to do some more&lt;br/&gt;sniffing around. IF i find anything more I&#039;ll let you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey NONA<br />its Bill<br />I left him an email<br />with the question but as of yet no<br />response. he doesn&#8217;t seem to have<br />a post to contact or leave comments<br />by. like you do. so i don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ll get an response. since you had contact with him you may have<br />to ask him your self. sorry about that. I&#8217;ll have to do some more<br />sniffing around. IF i find anything more I&#8217;ll let you know.</p>
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		<title>By: Nona</title>
		<link>http://all-about-ferrets.net/more-on-kaos/comment-page-1#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator>Nona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 11:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Bill - I really would appreciate knowing what you find out.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Yes, you&#039;re quite right -- all these different medications are so confusing. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I did a bit of googling and found something else about Kaos&#039; meds which makes me even more puzzled about whether what I&#039;m giving her is the right stuff.  I&#039;ll write about it in my blog tomorrow morning.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hopefully we can work out what the best results are for our ferrets when we share our experiences and results from various medications, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Bill &#8211; I really would appreciate knowing what you find out.</p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re quite right &#8212; all these different medications are so confusing. </p>
<p>I did a bit of googling and found something else about Kaos&#8217; meds which makes me even more puzzled about whether what I&#8217;m giving her is the right stuff.  I&#8217;ll write about it in my blog tomorrow morning.</p>
<p>Hopefully we can work out what the best results are for our ferrets when we share our experiences and results from various medications, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: ferret-lover</title>
		<link>http://all-about-ferrets.net/more-on-kaos/comment-page-1#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator>ferret-lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 08:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK I&#039;LL check that out when i get the chance and let you know, MED&#039;S&lt;br/&gt;can be so confusing at times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK I&#8217;LL check that out when i get the chance and let you know, MED&#8217;S<br />can be so confusing at times.</p>
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		<title>By: Nona</title>
		<link>http://all-about-ferrets.net/more-on-kaos/comment-page-1#comment-137</link>
		<dc:creator>Nona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bill&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That quote came from Ron Hines DVM, who is an American vet.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My vet told me that I shouldn&#039;t worry about Kaos&#039; potassium levels because the Spirolactone would balance it out when given in conjunction with her Flusapex and Benazepril.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Because she hasn&#039;t been prescribed Digoxin, I can only assume there&#039;s no worry about toxicity.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Re your question about spirolactone, I honestly have no idea if that causes an increase in the serum potassium on its own or together with Digoxin.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If you go to Ron Hines&#039; website, you&#039;ll see that he says people should email him if they want any further information about what he writes in his articles, so you might like to email him and ask him personally so that you get the right answer.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://www.2ndchance.info/ACC.htm&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Sorry I can&#039;t give you any definite answers but I would be really interested to know what the story is with the digoxin/spirolactone combination should you find out from him!  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bill</p>
<p>That quote came from Ron Hines DVM, who is an American vet.</p>
<p>My vet told me that I shouldn&#8217;t worry about Kaos&#8217; potassium levels because the Spirolactone would balance it out when given in conjunction with her Flusapex and Benazepril.</p>
<p>Because she hasn&#8217;t been prescribed Digoxin, I can only assume there&#8217;s no worry about toxicity.</p>
<p>Re your question about spirolactone, I honestly have no idea if that causes an increase in the serum potassium on its own or together with Digoxin.</p>
<p>If you go to Ron Hines&#8217; website, you&#8217;ll see that he says people should email him if they want any further information about what he writes in his articles, so you might like to email him and ask him personally so that you get the right answer.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.2ndchance.info/ACC.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.2ndchance.info/ACC.htm</a></p>
<p>Sorry I can&#8217;t give you any definite answers but I would be really interested to know what the story is with the digoxin/spirolactone combination should you find out from him!  <img src='http://all-about-ferrets.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ferret-lover</title>
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		<dc:creator>ferret-lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 22:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey Nona &lt;br/&gt;it&#039;s Bill&lt;br/&gt;I can see the swelling around her belly poor thing. But if she eating that&#039;s agood sign hopefully the the new med&#039;s will be more affective.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;WHEN you said (Spirolactone can increase the toxicity and effect of digoxin so your pet’s digitoxin dose may need to be lowered.&lt;br/&gt;It can also cause an (?increase in serum potassium,?)&lt;br/&gt; &lt;br/&gt;DOSE the Spirolactone by its self cause an increase in the serum potassium? &lt;br/&gt;or is it Spirolactone &amp; digoxin together that causee&#039;s this to happen? &lt;br/&gt;I just wanted to be clear on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey Nona <br />it&#8217;s Bill<br />I can see the swelling around her belly poor thing. But if she eating that&#8217;s agood sign hopefully the the new med&#8217;s will be more affective.</p>
<p>WHEN you said (Spirolactone can increase the toxicity and effect of digoxin so your pet’s digitoxin dose may need to be lowered.<br />It can also cause an (?increase in serum potassium,?)</p>
<p>DOSE the Spirolactone by its self cause an increase in the serum potassium? <br />or is it Spirolactone &#038; digoxin together that causee&#8217;s this to happen? <br />I just wanted to be clear on this.</p>
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